"Juan Jimenez" wrote in message
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"JDKAHN" wrote in
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How a guy who put in 600 hours in F106s "part time" is supposed to be
a shirker is beyond me.

He never flew the F-106, he flew the F-102, and he chose it because it
was pulled out of Vietnam in 1969. At least Kerry went to Vietnam and,
despite the barnyard animal sounds to the contrary, earned the medals he
got, which the Navy confirmed.

Ah finger trouble I meant to type 102...

I recall a Boston Globe interview a blogger found, where Kerry talks about
going to Vietnam and volunteering for SB duty because they didn't get too
deeply into shooting situations doing coastal patrol. He said he wanted to
get close but not TOO close. Then they switched roles to the inland rivers
and he bugged out as soon as he could with some scratches, nicks and bits of
metal in his ass from his own grenades. Some hero. I don't believe there
are cases of any other officers abandoning their men like that so soon into
their tours. Maybe you can find a similar case?

Here's a great summary of Bush's guard service from the Mudville
Gazette weblog. I will take the word of Bush's contemporaries and
commanders over Killian's typist who BTW is a partisan democrat and
Bush hater, therefore whos credibility is zero anyway, any time. Juan
you are a classic Micheal Moore Moonbat Leftist. And that says
everything.



Note To Big Media on Bush AWOL: The Truth Is Out There

mercy snip

"The Air Force, in their ultimate wisdom, assembled a group of 102's
and took them to Southeast Asia. Bush volunteered to go. But he needed
to have 500 [flight] hours, but he only had just over 300 hours so he
wasn't eligible to go," Morrisey recalls.

Which he KNEW. If he wanted to go so bad to Vietnam, why did he sign a
piece of paper saying he did not want to go?

Not familiar with such a piece of paper. What is that?

This is nothing but the sign of a yellow streak a mile long on a coward.

Several bloggers have analyzed his drill records here, here, and here
and have found nothing remarkable. The media, astonishingly ignorant
about even active duty military matters, are really lost at sea when
it comes to understanding Reserve drill requirements. But surely
investigative journalists could scare up a Reservist or two with admin
experience to help them interpret these records?

No problem, all the Shrub has to do is produce them. Put up or shut up.

e was the disbursement accounting supervisor, a full-time
position, for Dannelly Air National Guard Base in Montgomery from Oct.
28, 1971, to Oct. 27, 1975. His office was less than 100 yards from
the hangar where Bush performed drills.

So the Shrub came to get paid but none of his fellow flight officers saw
him show up. That's even WORSE than what's already been said!

Copeland, 65, remembers meeting Bush on two occasions. He does not
remember the precise dates.

So much for that cacameme story.

Compared to your whole case based on the old lady Democrat?

Copeland stressed that Calhoun's account of Bush's service in
Montgomery would be accurate because Calhoun was in a position to work
with Bush during every drill. Calhoun told The Associated Press last
week that he saw Bush every drill time, which was one weekend each
month.

Was he wearing his special "Bush detector glasses" that no other flight
officer at the squadron was issued?

Maybe he had Killian's secratary's mind reader psychic powers, where she
knew Killian's thoughts from 30 years ago! HAHAHAHAHA

What a bunch of mindless bull****.


So let me get this straight... all of the people involved with Bush in the
Guard, his senior officers and comrades, all of which had/have good things
to say ON THE RECORD, are liars, and the 80% of Kerry's Swiftvet comrades,
who say he is unfit and hate his guts, are also liars, but the old lady
Democrat that typed stuff for Killian, who recalls Killian's thoughts and
opinions about Bush which are contrary to the written record, trumps all
those people.... I see. I'm stumped. I give up. Such powerful logic
and insight is too much for me. You are a master of lost causes.

Best part of the Guard thing has been that many people had no idea Bush was
an ex fighter pilot and were quite impressed to find this out. Most people
intuitively know that stupid people generally don't succeed flying all
weather missions in 102s. And most people would not resent him serving
stateside any more than they resent active Air Force pilots who served out
their time in NORAD. Surely you don't think all pilots who served in NORAD
instead of Vietnam are shirkers do you????

Anyway, even if we accept your case that he wasn't in Alabama, nobody really
cares whether Bush appeared for some drills or not in the waning days of the
war when the air force and Guard were trying to unload a glut of pilots
anyway. I mean, lets compare... during this time your boy Kerry was busy
being a traitor meeting secretly with VC reps as a commssioned officer of
the Naval Reserve then coming back to lobby for their cause, something that
you don't dispute (you can't really, it's the documented truth), and that
was infintely more despicable than not having proof of attending some
completely redundant drills in '72 in Alabama.

How can you possibly support a candidate who was doing these things? Surely
you don't think the winter soldier smear, being a lobbyist for the North
Vietnamese at home, being a prop for the North to use against POWs, etc.,
was the right thing to do? He has never disavowed these things, never
apologized for them. For god's sake even Jane Fonda apologized to vets!!!!

In any case, I'm delighted that you accept the fact that Bush was a fighter
pilot and flew all those hours, and as a matter of fact accumulated over
three times the minimum requirement of Guard service points over 6 years,
including the minimum 50 point requirement in each of the last two years
when they no longer needed pilots anyway. Excellent. And he does have an
honorable discharge so he must have got the 50 points for his last year
somehow. Most lefties like M Moore simply claim he signed up and
disappeared at the start. This is progress.


This has been fun man. Very simulating. Thanks Juan.