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Old December 1st 03, 02:43 PM
W.J. \(Bill\) Dean \(U.K.\).
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DG remove LS from the market?
Don't write such rubbish!

Try looking at the DG web-site:
http://www.dgflugzeugbau.de/index-e.html .

For their plans for LS see:
"Products - LS Flugzeugbau".

For general information see:
"DG takes over LS Flugzeugbau":
http://www.dgflugzeugbau.de/ls-start-e.html .

NOTE WHAT THEY SAY ABOUT BRAND PHILOSOPHY.

Note that all LS types are covered.

Note that only 12 LS 4s have been made in the last two years.

Note that they are dealing with parts, technical notes and service for all
types.

For specific information about the LS 8 see
"LS8-s - Model Enhancements of a high performance glider":
http://www.dgflugzeugbau.de/ls8-modellpflege-e.html .

For delivery dates see:
"Order-Info",
"Delivery-Time for our Glider":
http://www.dgflugzeugbau.de/lieferzeiten.html .

Note that DG are keeping the separate dealerships for LS;
"List with Addresses of the Representatives of DG Flugzeugbau":
http://www.dgflugzeugbau.de/vertreterliste.html .

Note that DG were prepared to contemplate the LS 4 being produced by LAK,
and sub-contracting work to LAK.
"Isn't it a shame - a black day for German gliding":
http://www.dgflugzeugbau.de/schade-segelflug-e.html .

What chance is there that LAK could get the LS 8 back into production as
quickly as DG, and to the same quality?
Much the same question applies to the future of the LS10.

Will LAK be able to give the same service in the long term to existing
owners as DG?

In my experience in the UK East European gliders are bought because:
They are much cheaper,
They are readily available when there is a long waiting list for the German
equivalent,
They have some capability not available in a German glider, e.g. the
aerobatic Swift.
They have never been able to compete head-to-head.

There is a long history of German manufacturers sub-contracting to East
Europe and elsewhere, and a long history of resulting problems and inferior
quality (though not invariably).
Do you remember that Schempp sub-contracted the Open Cirrus to Yugoslavia?
The German built ones have always commanded a premium over the Yugo built
ones.
Some sub-contracted gliders have matched the quality of the German gliders,
and the German manufacturers have sub-contracted on that assumption.
However, on the second hand market there is often a preference for the
German built product.

I think that what seems to be happening to DG and LS is very bad news for
gliding generally.

W.J. (Bill) Dean (U.K.).
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Very interesting. Apparently someone else has outbid DG for LS, and
thus DG is out of the picture, with someone else getting the LS assets.


Sounds very good to me. DG could try to remove LS from the market. In
the situation that appeared, this means more competition on the market,
which always benefits the customer.

Regards,

JK