On 31 Dec 2003 18:32:43 GMT, (BAToulson) wrote:

In article , Gerhard Wesp
writes:


I'm don't want to praise airspace violations, but the people who ``put
the nails in our coffin'' are those who invent new restrictions without
any sense. E.g., the Restr. areas around German nuclear power plants.
Or the new vigourous controls for GA passengers (also Germany). Or
the abolishment of cockpit visits.

And where the hell have been during the last two years, head in the sand??

Barney

UK And a frequent airline traveller who applauds the determination of
governments and others to prevent a repeat of 9.11. Unfortunately, you will
never know how many such actions are prevented, only those that succeed.


You know, I don't think the 9/11 hijackers bothered to get a clearance
from Center to do what they did.

Pray tell, in what way is a restricted area around a nuke going to
deter a terrorist? Like a suicide pilot is going to worry about his
license being taken away because he violated a restricted area?

Get real.

Support real security measures, don't support measures that are merely
designed to give the appearance of security.

9/11 was caused by a hijacking reaction philosophy that said "give
the hijacker what he wants". This was quite rational given the history
of hijacking up to then.

It won't happen that way again unless the government reaction breeds
us all into sheep or other herbivorous grazing animals which airport
and airline security measures seem designed to do.

As someone said recently, the governments are treating people like a
herd, not a pack.

We now have reinforced cockpit doors which means that if the
terrorist(or just nutcase, deranged etc) is part of the flight crew he
can do what he wants after killing or incapacitating the rest of the
crew (most likely only one other) and the cabin crew and passengers
can do nothing about it. Airline pilots have committed suicide before
both on their own at home or in the aircraft taking all their
passengers with them.

I'd consider changing my job and lifestyle if I had to be a frequent
airline passenger so that that wouldn't be necessary.

Mike Borgelt

Airline passenger as infrequently as possible