Bill,
I have been responding to posts in this thread that indicate:

1. The British are now investigating their 4th Puch spin-in with unspecified
other types that have spun-in as a result of spin-training.

2. The british require 2-turn spins (full blown) in both directions, on initial
check-out and annually thereafter.

3. Some practice spins are entered as low as pattern altitude.

If the above is not true, please disregard my postings on the subject. I do
believe that ANY accident resulting from an intentional spin entry is
unacceptable and that spin training should emphasize spin recognition and spin
avoidance with recovery within 1 turn..

I now leave the British glider training in the good hands of the British glider
instructors and will post no more on this subject.
JJ Sinclair