(Marcel Duenner) wrote in message . com...
Marc Ramsey wrote in message .com...
Martin Gregorie wrote:
If you have a diesel driving through a fluid flywheel you don't need
that much power: we have a Supacat with a 245 hp Deutz V8 aircooled
industrial diesel and torque converter (no gearbox). This can launch
an ASH-25 or just about any Nimbus. With a 15 m glider, K-21 or Grob
you'd expect 1200-1400 ft on a 1000m run in calm conditions and over
2000 ft if its blowing a bit.

I think the difference is that Bill is considering operating at much
higher density altitudes. In the western US, there are many glider
operations where summer density altitudes are in the 8000+ foot range.

Marc


So?
Our setup: 222kW (300hp) turbocharged diesel, 6 drums, 1000m of steel
cable. This winch has handled everything including a 4DM. Even a
slight tailwind and a ASH25 are no real problem.
Samedan, the highest airport in Europe at over 5600ft MSL, has the
same winch with four drums. No problems at all. It's heaven compared
to the voluminous petrol monster they had before.

Just wondering if they had yanked out the engine in the "voluminous
petrol monster" and replaced it with some diesel engine would
they have had a "voluminous diesel monster" or would it have been
"heaven"? Point is there is much more to consider than just powerplant
when it comes to judging a machine. Chances are there are other things
to consider, like drivetrains, drums, to level wind or not, operator
comfort, control panels, comunications, cooling systems, maintainence,
portability, availability of parts, ect. ect. ect.

Craig-
BTW these winches use an average of 0.4 litres of Diesel per launch.