W.J. (Bill) Dean (U.K.). wrote:

You are just plain wrong.

Who are you answering to ? What are you speaking about ?

Please reply after what you quote and not before.

You also say:
"all I want is to give my opinion when I think something is said here that
may lead to dangerous flying - such as sentences like "don't exceed VNE, but
no problem if you exceed permitted G-loading" ".
Who said that, which posting?

You in :

" pull however hard is necessary not to exceed VNE,"


Exceeding Vne is outside limits and dangerous, so are any of the
alternatives - the discussion is about which of the alternatives is the
least worst.

No. Pulling airbrakes at or below VNE is safe and permitted, if you
respect the G limits. The other two (exceeding VNE or exceeding
g-limits) are unsafe and prohibited. I really don't understand why you
(and not you alone, unfortunately) cannot understand that.


With the Minden accident on 13th July 1999, it is clear from the report that
the glider was pitched down to well beyond a 45 degree dive, so the
airbrakes would not have been speed limiting.

Of course not. But it would have considerably limited the speed increase
in the few seconds needed to get at or below 45° dive.

You say "I never experienced a spin recovery", presumably you mean in a
large span glider. I hope you have done plenty in training and short span
machines.

Yes. Including some with a VNE at 550 kt...

Denis (Denis who and from where?),

Does it really import my family name or where I am from ? You'd better
try to find more convincing arguments.

Anyway the answer to your questions is in my headers or any search engine.

--
Denis

R. Parce que ça rompt le cours normal de la conversation !!!
Q. Pourquoi ne faut-il pas répondre au-dessus de la question ?