CV wrote in message ...
Clint wrote:
The communism as practiced by Russia until ~1990 and China is very
different from the theoretical concepts originally proposed by Lenin

Actual practice often turns out very different from theoretical
concepts.

etc. Kibbutzez in Israel are far closer to the original communist
proposal, yet have no fascist overtones. Ideal communism is everybody
working together for the good of the community. I think that the Amish
practice a form of communism in the way that they work together. I
don't think that the Amish can be called fascists

It is very funny that the Germans of the 1920's and 30's so feared
communism that they went with the fascism of the Nazis - and how that
changed world history.

Apartheid South Africa had many of the trappings of fascism
(especially if you happened to be non-white) but was totally opposed
to communism. The current government is far more lenient towards
communism - the South African Communist Party is an active part of the
government - yet is not fascist at all. There is no merit in saying
that fascism is a necessary part of communism and vice-versa - they
are very different models.

Noone has claimed the vice-versa afaik.

But OK then, besides smaller groups like kibbutzes or the Amish you
mention (must confess I have no idea what they are), ant colonies
and the like :0), name a country that has had a communist system
for any amount of time without fascist-style repression and
persecution to keep their citizenry in line.

CV


The Amish are a religious group who live in settlements in 22 states
and Ontario, Canada. The oldest group of Old Order Amish, about
16-18,000 people live in Lancaster County, Pennsylvania. The Amish
stress humility, family and community, and separation from the world.

A communist system based on the fear of God - rather than the fear of
military rule :-)

15000 ft cloudbase - 4m/s thermals. Got to love Africa.

Clinton Birch
Lak 12