Walter Weir wrote:

My '20 was also the only glider (or throttled back power plane) that I
ever flew which was uncontrollable with the stick against the aft
stop. With every type but the '20 I could very slowly ease the stick
aft until it hit the stop and then control it indefinitely with coarse
use of aileron and rudder as it waffled downwards.

I would think "coarse use" of the ailerons would be exactly the wrong
thing to do with the stick full aft.

Rudder is often the best, and sometimes the only, way to do high AOA
maneuvering in fixed-wing types I have flown.

In what types have you found coarse use of aileron to be of benefit at
high AOA?



Jack