Al,
I believe your quotes are misinformed, as I was the one that the "Masturbating
with a cheese grater" quote was originally directed at by none other than KF.
(You know EXACTLY who I am talking about)

The situation was this: After 13 years of flying a 1-26, I was allowed to fly
a Nimbus II for my first time in big glass. I was quickly in heaven, and while
in a thermal with KF and Z, I remarked "Hey KF, I'll sell you my 1-26 so I can
buy a glass bird". The immediate response on 123.3 was "Mitch, do you think I
LIKE the idea of masturbating with a cheese grater?!?!" At which point Zulu
lost the core of the thermal because he was laughing so hard, and subsequently
a cheese grater was installed covertly into CG's cockpit and is handed off from
pilot to pilot as the legend grows.

Surely you did not forget THAT quickly since KF has been out of the country?

-Mitch
(This flight in the Nimbus ended up costing me $29,000 for a used Discus)