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Old February 21st 05, 10:48 PM
Jim
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It didn't appear to me the throttle was an issue, At the exact moment the
left main touched the deck, a full down collective would have saved the
landing damage free. It is just a gut feeling the pilot had more than enough
problems to be thinking of the correct action vs the action he appears to
have taken and right at the time (pulled collective to avoid slamming onto
the deck, or rebonded pulling collective involenarily, just a guess) . You
can see in the rotor disk the application of additional pitch at that moment
enducing more torque reaction as well as a ballooning effect. Watch closely
and you cam see the massive amount of coning in the blades at that moment.
Of course I would assume this was an action caused by the bounce and rebound
effect and not a deliberate action of the pilot as the pilot wasn't even
able to tilt the cyclic to the right. The disk remains in the neutural plane
or ever so slightly lean to the left. Even a very nervious reaction would be
to ad corrective cyclic if able to do so.
Glad to hear all survived, the most importent thing of course. God bless
them for their work and the incredable risk they take for our country and
the free world!

Just observations based on opinion for thought and not an application of
science or technical background.
Jim


hellothere.adelphia.net wrote in message
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The co-pilot is responsible for the throttle. During takeoff and
landings his hands are on it at all times.

Fly an A-Star, other then the B3 version, the throttle is not on the
collective.

On Mon, 21 Feb 2005 16:18:39 GMT, "Steve R."
wrote:

Really?? Why in the world would they do that? Obviously, there are

times
when having instant access to throttle control is critical. Although, as
you say, it probably wouldn't have made much difference, especially on

close
final to such and tight, "and moving," landing site.

Fly Safe,
Steve R.


"B4RT" wrote in message
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They spool down pretty quickly, but it doesnt matter much from a TR
failure perspective. If you chop the throttle the needle split is

almost
instant. I think this helicopter's throttles are not located on the
collective which might make the throttle chop more complex.

Bart

"Steve R." wrote in message
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Yup, got that one. It's been around for a while. The darn tail just
couldn't hang in there for 30 more seconds! I'm assuming that the

pilot
got the throttle rolled off? Do turbines take as long to spool down

as
they do to spool up?

Fly Safe,
Steve R.