And two generations of teenage learners have omitted mentioning, to the
owner of the family car, the part about sliding sideways onto "the dry
patch." BTDT...

Heh. I tore BOTH rear tires off the rims of my Mom's 1968 Pontiac LeMans by
sliding sideways onto a dry patch.

I put the spare tire on one side, threw the flat tire in the trunk, and
called my Dad to explain that "I've got a flat tire, and the spare is flat!"

It worked.

:-)
--
Jay Honeck
Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
"Your Aviation Destination"