On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 13:06:19 GMT, "Jay Honeck"
wrote in flYWd.42705$r55.9673@attbi_s52::

There are other cold hard facts to consider here. We aren't dealing with
"a murderer". We're dealing with entire cultures who just don't happen to
appreciate our way of going about things. So, to make sure they don't try
to kill the rest of our family, perhaps the best approach is to go about
things differently? If so, the best question to ask is "why do they hate
us?", as only an understanding and addressing of that question can lead to
peace.

Well, Neil, I hear you -- but I don't believe that our enemies really care
about how we "change our ways."

What facts make you hold that belief?

It's clearly gone beyond all that. (As if "we" had the ability to "change
our ways" anyway -- whatever all that means.)

It means standing up and telling our government, through our
representatives, that we find the practices they have committed in our
collective name do not reflect our true desires.

At best, your suggestion only works if you believe that our culture isn't
superior to that which predominated during the 6th Century, A.D. -- which is
about where the terrorists are today.

Perhaps, now we're getting to the crux of the matter. So you believe,
that because our cultural supremacy, we have the right to impose our
will over less advanced cultures?

If you think that "changing our ways" to suit their barbaric view of the
world will ensure peace, I suggest you study Neville Chamberlain and
what his government did with the Nazis, some 65 years ago.

I doubt Neil is suggesting that the US attempt to negotiate with
openly militaristic nations bent on world domination. Your
Chamberlain reference appears to be a non sequitur.

I don't see the issue as "changing our ways to suit their barbaric
view of the world" as much as changing our government's actions to
bring them in line with the fine moral values of the majority of our
nation's people.