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Old March 11th 05, 07:18 PM
Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired
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Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired wrote:


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phosgene (fos,jn, foz,-) n.a poisonous, colorless, very


volatile

liquid or suffocating gas, COCl2, used as a chemical-warfare


compound.

[1805-15; Gk phs light (contr. of phos) + -gens -GEN]


Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired



Therfore you cannot get phosgene from hot-wiring polyurethane
since there is no Clorine in urethane (C3H7NO2).


It helps to look up the right thing:

http://www.asiapacific.noveoninc.com.../tpu/58238.htm

Hazardous Decomposition Products
Volatiles may be evolved during overheating, combustion,
ormdecomposition. These potential decomposition gases
have not been fullymdetermined but may include CO, CO2,

and small amounts of hydrogen CYANIDE,

oxides of nitrogen, hydrocarbons, isocyanates, water vapor
and/or combinations of the previous, and smoke. ...

(emphasis mine.)

http://electriccoop.apogee.net/res/reinure.asp

Urethane Insulation

Urethane insulation is made of plastic polymers and contains 80
to 90 percent closed cells containing refrigerant gas rather
than air. It is one of the most effective insulators, but is
flammable. When it burns it emits cyanide gas and is therefore
banned in some areas of the country.


(Note 'flammible' may be inappropriate as the autoignition
temperature for Urethane foams is well above the flashpoint
threshold for flammible _liquids_. 'Combustible' may be the
proper term but I don't know if those terms are used the same
way for solids as for liquids.)

Whereas phsogene kills you slowly cyanide is quite fast.

I never said you could. I was answering a rather crude question.

Dan, U.S. Air Force, retired