mindenpilot wrote:

"Gig 601XL Builder" wr.giacona@coxDOTnet wrote in message
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"mindenpilot" wrote in message
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Also, if the weather is VFR, there is nothing stopping us VFR pilots from
filing an IFR flight plan and flying in, as long as we maintain VFR.
This would further add to the congestion.


Well, nothing except the FARs 61.3
(e) Instrument rating. No person may act as pilot in command of a civil
aircraft under IFR or in weather conditions less than the minimums
prescribed for VFR flight unless that person holds:




It looks like the FAR you listed specifically says "IFR" or "weather less
than VFR".
If the weather is VFR (as I stated) then you only need a safety pilot, who
does not need to be instrument rated.

Correct. You can shoot PRACTICE approaches without an IFR flight plan.
As long as you and ATC are clear that YOU are NOT on an IFR flight plan,
you are operating under VFR rules. Cloud Clearance, Visibility, etc.

Otherwise, how do you train for IFR? Always have an instrument rated safety
pilot?


You train for it under VFR rules. If you do not have a pilot who can
Legally accept an IFR clearance (rated and current) then you cannot
accept an IFR clearance. Period. If you DO, then you shoot practice
approaches under an IFR clearance.. you can even shoot REAL approaches
in actual. You can PRACTICE under VFR or under IFR.. but if under IFR
someone has to be able to accept the clearance.

Dave