On Wed, 16 Jul 2003 21:25:02 -0400, "Robert Henry"
wrote:

In thinking this over, I should have used the word responsibility instead of
liability.

I'll accept the word responsibility instead of liability.


But as requested, here's several accidents that imho satisfy the intent of
my comment, just in the last 3 years.


But not mine. Going back to the your original comment and my reply:


Perhaps (words twice), the safety pilot who agrees to be/log PIC should
understand the liability they are accepting for the flight

And perhaps you can tell us about a case in which a safety pilot who
was acting as PIC was held responsible for an accident. Anything in
the last 99.5 years will do.

=None= of the three cases involve a safety pilot being held
responsible based on his status of acting as PIC. In all three cases
(an the last one is hardly a "safety pilot" scenario, the safety pilot
is being held responsible for something the safety pilot does
personally. In the first (in which according to the report, the SP is
=not= acting as PIC) the safety pilot is responsible for a bad landing
in which he was flying the airplane (not acting as "eyes"). The lesson
I get is, "Don't try to land an airplane that is unfamiliar to you or
from a position in the airplane that is unfamiliar to you without some
instruction."

The second one at least involves the safety pilot's status as safety
pilot. But again, the safety pilot is not being given responsibility
for being PIC. Rather, he's being held responsible for failing to act
properly as a safety pilot. The lesson I get is, "If you are going to
act as a safety pilot, don't take it as a joke. It is an important
job, so do it correctly."

The third, even assuming that the status of first officer in a Part
121 operation is akin to a safety pilot again involves a pilot being
held responsible for what the pilot does, in this case, a bad landing,
rather than as a PIC responsible for the flight.

You are absolutely right about the situation with TFRs and ADIZs. If
during a flight under the hood the flight busts, say a stadium TFR, I
would expect the safety pilot to be looking at a violation. But,
again, that would be for not performing safety pilot duties properly
and would have nothing to do with their status as PIC or not PIC or
logging sometime or not logging something.



Mark Kolber
APA/Denver, Colorado
www.midlifeflight.com
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