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Steven P. McNicoll wrote:

"A Guy Called Tyketto" wrote in message
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Has 2-way communication been established?


Yes.


How? ATC hadn't responded to you. that is not 2-way
communication. If ATC doesn't respond, what do YOU do? violate their
airspace? I know what knowledgable pilots will do, but what would YOU
do? (watch your answer here. it's the difference between getting your
pilot's license suspended, and doing the right thing.)


If ATC does not
respond, you MAY NOT ENTER THEIR AIRSPACE.


ATC had responded.

Once again, they hadn't. And if they don't respond, again, what
would you do?


********. You must.


You keep saying that but you offer no supporting documentation. Please
provide some.

Clearances must be read back. Just like receiving your
clearance from delivery.


But go on and believe what you believe.
I've posted references to documentation stating opposite your case, for
both ATC and pilots.


There is nothing in any of the documentation you provided that supports your
position.

Once again, the 7110.65P supports what ATC will say, and expect
to be heard back. Read it. Then read it again.


If you want to go on flying like an idiot, I hope
I'm not controlling you (and as I'm more than likely getting the call
to start at NCT in Sacramento (well what do ya know, Class C!)), you'll
resent me, because if I ask you to remain outside of Class C for a
reason, I'm expecting that readback.


What are you going to do if you don't get that readback?

If you don't change your attitude you'll not be able to learn the procedures
and won't check out, so it'll never be an issue.

If you don't change yours, your stubborness will gift you with
a request to call the TRACON facility handling you regarding the
concept of communications and readbacks.

BL.
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