"A Guy Called Tyketto"

Thank you. This is EXACTLY what I've been trying to get at all
along in this thread. You *MUST* hear 'Cleared into Class Bravo
Airspace' to be allowed to enter Bravo airspace. That is your clearance
into it. Even the FARs state it:

I gotta ask: Are you a pilot? Your musings on this are incorrect and
increasingly of no interest to those who are trained in these procedures.
You don't know the full definition of "clearance". You are playing with
people who actually use this knowledge on a regular basis. By your
misunderstanding, we'd all have lost our tickets years ago.

Sec. 91.131 - Operations in Class B airspace.

(a) Operating rules. No person may operate an aircraft within a Class B
airspace area except in compliance with ?91.129 and the following
rules:
(1) The operator must receive an ATC clearance from the ATC facility
having jurisdiction for that area before operating an aircraft in that
area.
Some people just fail to understand that.

Godlike. One day you will feel a) stuipd or b) spanked. Maybe both.

Even more than that, if they tell you to remain outside of
Bravo airspace, or any airspace, and give you a reason, pilots are
requested to read that back.

What if they don't give a reason? They often don't.

"NY departure this is N123XX."

"VFR aircraft stay clear of Class Bravo airspace."

"N123XX wilco."

See? Now you know something new.

ATC is going to expect a readback.

Is that only if they give you a reason?

moo