"Icebound" wrote in message ...

"Gary Drescher" wrote in message ...
"W P Dixon" wrote in message ...
Interesting! I wonder how that works? Hard to have a visual if you can not see? Not trying to be a smart ass or
anything just trying to get the whole picture.

For purposes of visual versus instrument flight rules, the required visibility conditions are specified for purposes
of separation, not navigation or aviation. That is, as long as you can see well enough to keep from colliding with
other aircraft, there's no requirement to be able to tell where you are without use of instruments, or even to be
able to keep the plane upright without use of instruments.



For those of you who fly VFR to Canada, I do not believe that interpretation would stand up. Canadian rules
specifically mention:


602.114 [and 602.115]

No person shall operate an aircraft in VFR flight within controlled [and uncontrolled] airspace unless

(a) the aircraft is operated with visual reference to the surface;



USA can fly VFR as long as the visibility and cloud clearance rules are followed. We can fly over the top of the clouds
with no surface visible...