Gary Drescher wrote:

Can you cite those rulings, please? I can readily believe that you might
assume the *burden of proof* that you obtained a briefing from another
source. But that's very different from saying that another source doesn't
count even if you *meet* the burden of proof.

No I can't. I got that impression from various articles I'd read
over the years, and the fact that a pilot I knew was actually dinged
for having used a 3rd party airport guide, rather than the Facilities
Directory. The violation for not using the AF/D was not the main
violation. They got him for busting a class B and tacked the 91.103
violation on when the investigation revealed he'd used it instead of
the official source. The 3rd party guide did not contain any incorrect
info, nor did it contribute in any way to the class B aispace bust.

Of course, this is now all anecdotal, since I haven't got a case
number and haven't seen this particular guy in about 10 years, so take
it for what it's worth. Some crap I heard on the internet :-))

John Galban=====N4BQ (PA28-180)


If I get my NOTAM info from a source other than the FAA, have I
really gathered all of the info pertinent to the flight?

If your source includes then same information that DUATS or FSS is offering,
then of course you have.

--Gary