On Sat, 28 May 2005 14:20:06 +0000 (UTC), Paul Tomblin wrote:

Note to CFIIs: When doing practice approaches to a non-towered airport in
VFR conditions, don't allow you student to make radio calls giving their
position relative to the outer marker, or other IFR jargon. A lot of
private students and even pilots won't know what the heck you are talking
about.

I agree with this "somewhat" as you need to remember, the student needs to
learn the radio calls as well. So, any practice lessons with an IFR
student should include IFR jargon as you state in his radio calls.

With this in mind, I personally include VFR references in my approach into
Madison, MS (MBO). When I practice approaches, I will say:

Madison, Sundowner 12345L 5 miles NW, inbound VOR Alpha Madison. This
tells all pilots my position relative to the airport, as well as tell any
IFR traffic what my intentions are. If any pilot doesn't know where 5
miles NW is, then I would question their navigation abilities.

Allen