That is interesting. I will start re-reading. Thanks for pointing that
out.

Fred


"Bob Moore" wrote in message
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"Fred Choate" wrote

How much is too much over gross weight?

Terminology...terminology...terminology :-)

Where did you guys pick up the term "gross weight" with
regard to aircraft operating limitations? The FAA sure
doesn't use it and I understand it to mean what ever the
airplane weighs at some particular time.

From Part 23:

Section 23.3: Airplane categories.
(a) The normal category is limited to airplanes that have
a seating configuration, excluding pilot seats, of nine
or less, a maximum certificated takeoff weight of 12,500
pounds or less,

Section 23.25: Weight limits.
(a) Maximum weight. The maximum weight is the highest weight
at which compliance with each applicable requirement of this
part (other than those complied with at the design landing
weight) is shown. The maximum weight must be established so
that it is-

Note the use of "Maximum Certificated Takeoff Weight" and
"maximum weight".

At some airlines, I have seen references to "Maximum Gross
Weight" and "Actual Gross Weight", but never just Gross Weight
meaning a certificate limit.

Bob Moore