"Orval Fairbairn" wrote

Have you ever attempted reasonable discourse on the subject? IIRC, you
came to this newsgroup like the proverbial turd in the punchbowl,
looking to chastise everybody who flies.

Orval, killfile this turd. He isn't ever going to be worth it, nor is he a
threat. If he was, he wouldn't be talking about it here!
--
Jim in NC