Larry Dighera wrote:
On 26 Jul 2005 07:47:02 -0700, wrote in
.com::

I agree that the ADIZ will not serve as the primary defense against all
aircraft-based terror attacks. It will however help some portion of the
time.

Please explain how the DC ADIZ will effectively deflect any
hypothetical attack. In my opinion, the DC ADIZ only provides an
identification buffer so friendly flights are not accidentally shot
down by the SAMs surrounding DC.

Well, this is part of my point. IF you are willing to concede that at
some point the gov't will attempt to shoot down planes which are
suspected of being engaged in a terrorist attack, then you need to have
a line marked DO NOT CROSS.

If the flight of the hypothetical Lear attack proposed by Brian
originated _within_ the existing DC ADIZ, anyone who proposed
increasing the size of the ADIZ would be seen as irrational.

No one but airlines inside the ADIZ. Problem solved. Of course there
will be a special security program so that jets owned by campaign
contributors will be able to get where they want.

Schumer is a Bonanza pilot. What makes you think he's unfriendly
toward GA?

Um, every public statement on GA he's made over the past four years?
Thanks George P for answering this one.

Again, please explain how the current DC ADIZ provides any means of
stopping a hypothetical aerial attack. It's just there so our
military doesn't accidentally shoot down innocent civilians before
they enter the FRZ.

It's an escalation point. If you didn't have the ADIZ you;d have a lot
more planes coming close to the kill line and less time to sort out the
Attas from the Sheaffers.

And, bottom line, I still maintain that the vast majority of these
incursions are unambiguously the fault of pilot screwups that are
utterly preventable.

Perhaps that's true, but such an attitude fails to address the
outrageousness of restricting flight in some of the world's busiest
airspace with the expectation of said restriction effectively
preventing incursions into it. There are no visible points on the
surface to identify the ADIZ boundaries. The DC ADIZ is simply a trap
for airmen, that is ineffective in accomplishing its purpose.

Bull****, Larry, Bull****. By that definition every slice of Class B
and C airspace are equally outrageous because they are defined by DME
arcs.

The best chance we have to loosen the chains is to
prove that we're not a bunch of nincompoops and the numbers right now
don't appear to make us look too good.

And the numbers aren't likely to get any better, unless you know of
something that will cause them to change. The threat of large fines
pales in comparison to the threat of being shot down by our military.

It's a lot easier to actually apply the penalty of a fine than shooting
someone down. It's more likely to actually be used and therefore become
believable. No one really wants to shoot an innocent bumbling American
GA pilot out of the sky.

-cwk.

-cwk.