but John,
50 or so shots and not hit anything? Now firing the old .45 out the huey
door while flying, doubt I could hit anything ..but you'd have to be running
away firing over your shoulder not to hit anything that close. My grandma
could get a better grouping than that! heck alot of these "shoot outs" are
within 15 feet. Maybe it's all the donut glaze stuck on their trigger
fingers?

Semper Fi,
Patrick

"John E. Carty" wrote in message
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I'm also a former combat Marine and could always hit 10 for 10 from the
500 yard line (it was never measured in meters for us) with an M-16 with
open sights. However, firing a rifle from the prone position and firing a
handgun while on the move are two entirely different things :-)


"W P Dixon" wrote in message
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As an old Marine you could say I have been in a 'few" firefights..and my
target was the basic human "shadow" and all hits are in the center chest
. Also Marine rifle coach with 4 awards expert rifleman. And I still do
not see how a 'trained' professional marksman can miss so much. An
M-16/AR-15 is a very accurate weapon in the right hands.

Patrick

"John E. Carty" wrote in message
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W P Dixon wrote:

Wow that's sad!,
I don't understand why the cops have such poor shots. At 500 meters
I am bullseye 10 out 0f 10 , with a scope that range would get wayyyy
on out there. Really makes the officers look like Keystone Cops when
the only inflicted wound in a 50 round fired shoot out is a bruise
from an ejected 9mm empty brass!


Ever been in a firefight where the 'target' is shooting back at you?
Makes a difference :-)