"Robert Henry" wrote in message news:C5fpb.9559$Re.3059@lakeread06...

I spoke with both the tower and the APPCON facility following an issue I
experienced, and both held that an ODP needs to be requested by the pilot if
not issued, and will never be recommended/suggested/alluded to/etc. I think
that is a deathtrap waiting to happen, but who am I.

fwiw.

FWIW Robert, was this in US or Canada?

Sydney