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Old November 8th 03, 04:10 AM
Greg Goodknight
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"ArtP" wrote in message
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On Sat, 08 Nov 2003 02:01:13 GMT, "Greg Goodknight"
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"ArtP" wrote in message
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On Fri, 07 Nov 2003 15:54:41 -0800, wrote:

If the missed approach on the IAP says something like:

heading of 270 to 4000
Intercept the XXX VOR R-180
Direct to XXX VOR

What should you do if you get to R-180 before you get to 4000?

Keep climbing on 270 to 4000?

Turn and track the R-180 while climbing?

Follow the procedure (keep climbing on 270 until 4000 feet then turn
back to intercept the radial. It is possible that unless you are at
4000 you may not want to be on that radial.


I think it far more likely that ATC will expect the pilot to remain on

the
specified course and if an obstruction was a problem there would be a
minimum gradient specified or a minimum crossing.


According to the AIM (Instrument Departures) a climb gradient
would only be specified if a climb of greater than 200 feet per
nautical mile were required. Without an indication of a climbing turn
via I would continue on the specified heading until the specified
altitude were reached.


Perhaps if you found just one missed approach, or any procedure that
specifies passing through a radial and doubling back after a specified
altitude without the benefit of any course guidance; remember, the
hypothetical was just flying a heading until the radial was intercepted. I
can't imagine a course reversal ever being implied in free space.

The hypothetical seemed flawed to me, hence my request for an real example
from "nospam". If I was faced with the actual wording posed and ATC was not
available, I would not be playing FAR Bingo, I'd fly the course specified
and not invent a new one because of a possibility of an implied altitude
problem.

-Greg



I would interpret the above missed instruction as "climb and maintain

4000,
maintain heading of 270 to intercept the 180 radial inbound..." without a
second thought.


Take a look at FQD LOC RWY 1 for an example of a climb then a
climbing turn. Take a look at RWI VOR/DME 22 for an example of a climb
via an intercepted radial (the method you are describing). Take a look
at RDU NDB RWY 5R for another example.


Perhaps an example from "nospam" of an actual plate would be more
instructive.


I agree.