Hi Roy haven't talked to you directly in years.

Put VALRE into Google this is what came back. My gut feeling is that since
it is designed to handle high performance aircraft in reality all traffic
follows this flow with VALRE being condiered by the computer as a
feeder?/transistion fix.
http://204.108.4.16/d-tpp/0507/00651VALRE.PDF

It appears the date on the chart was effective 7/05/2005. Probably required
some ARTCC computer programming
Al

"Roy Smith" wrote in message
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The stock clearance into HPN from the POU area is IGN V157 HAARP. It's
been that for as long as I've been flying around here. Recently, they've
started issuing IGN V157 VALRE V157 HAARP, which boils down to exactly the
same thing (VALRE is just a bend in V157).

Today, I asked the controller about it. His response is that he just
reads
what gets printed on the strip, and they've been wondering the same thing
in the Tracon :-).

Does anybody have any idea why the ATC computer would be generating
clearances with the same airway mentioned twice?