Hi Roy,
I don't have an answer but I may have a "clue." I too noticed that
clearances have been including a specific fix even though it was on the
airway in the original clearance. My clearance was
FRG..BDR.V91.MOONI.V91.GFL..4B6. Looking at the Lo-Alt Enroute Jepp, I see
that MOONI is on V91. However, after MOONI the airway changes to include
V39. From a software perspective, the computer may view the segment north of
MOONI differently requiring a call-out of MOONI. In your situation, the
system *may* be viewing the segment after VALRE differently because of the
dogleg.

We may never know if a programmer did something to cause this anomaly.
Probably not even that programmer! Makes me wonder if there's a defect
report somewhere...

Marco Leon

"Roy Smith" wrote in message
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The stock clearance into HPN from the POU area is IGN V157 HAARP. It's
been that for as long as I've been flying around here. Recently, they've
started issuing IGN V157 VALRE V157 HAARP, which boils down to exactly the
same thing (VALRE is just a bend in V157).

Today, I asked the controller about it. His response is that he just
reads
what gets printed on the strip, and they've been wondering the same thing
in the Tracon :-).

Does anybody have any idea why the ATC computer would be generating
clearances with the same airway mentioned twice?