In a previous article, "Jay Honeck" said:
Didn't matter. One by one, the Raptor shot them ALL down. In post sortie
interviews the F-15 pilots said they never even SAW the Raptor, visually or
with radar. All they knew is that they were suddenly dead.

A poster on rec.aviation.military was involved with the YF-23 project, and
they had similar experience in their simulations. The enemy just never
saw them before they blew up, even if their wingman blew up first.


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