OK, following talkabout protocol....Steve wrote:

"Why do you feel entitled to compensation? Bad things happen to good
people.
Life isn't fair. Live with it.

It seems that you're angry at the 10% (your figure) pilots who create the
problem, along with the establishment for not resolving what you perceive
as
a problem, and have decided to do whatever you can to get even. Swatting
flies with a cannon.

Like I said, you are punishing ME, personally, by taking money from my
pocket to pay for a useless containment system. What do you get from it,
except the satisfaction of 'getting even'?

You've stated that everything you've done is legal. Tell me, is it
right?"

Steve: I was not clear in my prior post. I do not want compensation. I
simply want the FAA minimums enforced and I want community concerns to be
on the agenda at the airport. I want the airport and the FBOs to tell the
pilots to obey the voluntary noise abatement procedures (safety permitting,
obviously). I want the corrupt FAA bureaucracy to stop taking my taxpayer
money to support private business interests, thereby artificially lowering
the cost of GA to the pilots. In other words, I believe in the free
market, not in subsidizing private interests with MY money. User fees are
fair and equitable, and they are coming. Taxpayers (and commercial
passengers) should not support private hobbies and business interests.

By the way, using Phil Boyer's logic, the EPA regulations are not costing
u a dime: simply pass them on to your customers. (Phil B: commercial
airlines do not subsidize the FAA budget for GA purposes because they pass
the cost onto passengers -- this is his stupid argumement. This guy really
is a gem, and very bad for your industry....)


As far as life being unfair, live with it.... Very true. So you too
should live with the EPA regulations, or exercise your right as a citizen
to have them changed. I did not take a single penny from your pocket; the
EPA made the rules. I simply pointed out that I oppose the aircraft
fueling industry's attempts to thwart an existing EPA regulation. You
should take that reg up with the EPA and your elected officials, like I
do.

Everything I do is legal (well, except obey the 55 mph speed limit), and
yes, "right." If a group of pilots insists that they have the god-given
"right" to make a bunch of noise, fly below minimums, etc, I certainly
have the right to point out the problem to people who might make a
difference.

The minority of flyers who wreak noise havoc are the ones you should be
****ed off at, not me and the other victims of their anti-social
behaviour.

When I went to the airport meeting last year for the expansion project
(they try to make it more palatable by using the word "improvements"),
there were many old residents there that were too unsure or intimidated to
ask questions or complain about the lack of adherence to the voluntary
noise standards. All they knew was that they were being awakened on a
nightly basis (some by FBO's doing work all night, others by takeoffs and
landing, and still others by high RPM runups at night.) Your very own
Skylune of course has no such reservations, and I did my homework before
the meeting. I know about the part 150 study the airport never adhered
to, I know about the traffic pattern, I know about the corrupt authority's
plans to get more city tax dollars after refusing to consider fee
increases..... I just pointed out these issues and asked some questions.
(Funny aside: I thought one of the pilots was gonna punch me out after the
meeting, the way he was glaring at me. But, given that he has about a 44
inch waist and I am an athletic type, I guess he thought twice.... Maybe
he is the Mooney guy. I will catch that N-number one of these days!)

After I began asking questions, many of the elderly residents also began
asking questions and expressing noise complaints. Initially, the airport
people tried (SOP) to portray me as whining whacko. I thanked the others
for backing me up and also standing up for THEIR rights.

As far as my using using a "cannon" to swat flies, you are giving me, a
single individual, far too much credit. But I'm trying to get more people
organized. Unfortunately, many will just suffer in silence against the
well-moneyed, organized local airport cabal. I consider my efforts a
public service.

Skylune out (really this time). Good luck to you (and I mean it, you
seem to be a reasonable guy caught in the middle).