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Old September 16th 05, 01:52 AM
Roy Page
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If you are going for an Archer keep to the Archer II which will hold the
price better than the 180, Challenger or Archer I.
As already reported the Challenger and Archer I were one and the same thing,
both having extra inches of cabin length and an couple of feet on its
Hershey bar wing span.
The first year for the Archer II was, I think, 1976.
Most Challengers have a lower useful load than the Archer II, hence not so
popular.
Pre 1981 Archer II's have a useful load of between about 970and 1050 Lbs.
Expect to pay $60,000 to $70,000 for an Archer II with mid time engine and
older avionics.
Don't buy an Archer II without the Autopilot [Century IIB until early
1980's] as most folk want an AP.
The Century IIB [Piper Autocontrol III] does a really fine job and is quite
reliable.

Of course I fly an Archer II and it serves my mission really well which
often have all 4 seats filled with flight legs of 2 to 3 hours.
Flight plan for 110 Knots, lean it well and cruise at about 2450 RPM to use
about 9.0 to 9.5 GPH.
They climb easily to 12,500ft loaded up to max gross weight.
A great reliable aircraft that will not cost the earth to maintain and can
carry you and the family coast to coast.

Roy
Archer II N5804F


"Bob Noel" wrote in message
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In article ,
wrote:

IIRC the Challenger was the stretched Cherokee 180, but still had
hershey bar
wings.


true.

Don't all the Archers have the taperwings?


Nope. the '74 and '75 pa-28-180 are Archer I's and
have the hershey bar wing.

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Bob Noel
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