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Old September 17th 05, 08:48 PM
A Lieberman
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On 16 Sep 2005 10:40:00 -0700, in rec.aviation.piloting you wrote:

Is there a size parameter? Bigger than a bread-box? Smaller than a
city block? I've searched and can't find a technical definition of an
"FAA cloud".


Hey Jay,

For the FAA definition of a cloud go to
http://www.spaceref.com/news/viewsr.html?pid=15630. Scroll toward the
middle and you will find the following:

quote

New Definition of ``Cloud'' in Sec. G417.3

In response to comments, the draft regulatory language would define
``cloud'' as a visible mass of water droplets or ice crystals produced by
condensation of water vapor in the atmosphere.

/quote

If you can see visible moisture, it's a cloud. While our machines may not
get as high as cirrus clouds, those things look pencil thin, yet they are
called clouds.

I hate to say it, but I have to agree with others. The cloud clearance
rules and regs are designed to protect the IFR pilot.

If I am GPS direct off route from point A and point B and plodding along in
and out of clouds, the last thing I would want is an unpleasant surprise
coming out of a cloud.

Mind you, center "may" give me a traffic advisory saying 43L, traffic 12:00
3 miles ahead, 3500 unverified. If either of our altitudes are off, it
will make for an unpleasant meeting.

Traffic is already hard enough to spot on severe clear days. Having my
head inside the cockpit and popping out of a cloud won't give me time to
see you much less avoid you if center doesn't / didn't give me an advisory.

While the big sky theory works, I wouldn't want to fully depend on it.

Hope this helps.

Allen