On 9/23/2005 09:01, John Clonts wrote:

or should they just know it already?

I was departing Sugarland (KSGR) yesterday, after having gotten my
clearance from ground control. Tower assigned me runway heading (this
was about 45 minutes later as there was MUCH traffic waiting in line
for takeoffs) and handed me off to departure. I had trouble getting a
word in edgewise, but when I eventually did, departure said "change
squawk to 0044". Later a different controller (but same freq I
believe) asked my if I was VFR???? I told him "Negative, N7NZ is
cleared Industry departure then as filed, currently on 270 vector". He
said, "roger, cleared direct IDU", and the rest of the flight was
uneventful (and unambiguously IFR). This was all in VMC.

Later I thought that maybe the tower didn't realize I was IFR when he
cleared me for takeoff, and that fouled something up with departure.

Or, is there another reason I would have immediately been given a new
squawk code like that? I seem to remember that 0xxx squawks are
"local" or something like that. Yet I believe I then kept that same
0044 the entire remaining duration of the flight (through Houston
Center and then Austin Approach to my destination 44TE).

Well, you get your clearance from Ground/Clearance Delivery, but then
there may be any number of delays between that time, and when you're
ready to take off.

You need to let the tower know when you're ready (by telling them that
you're holding for IFR release). The tower then begins negotiating for
a slot in the 'system' for your flight. Once they have a slot ready,
they clear you to take off.

I was told this 'holding for release' should never take more than a
few minutes, but then I fly out of a not-so-busy tower-controlled
airport (Sacramento Executive, KSAC).

I was taught never to assume that I would be able to just tell the
tower that I was ready to go. This step of finding a slot in the
system for me can't begin until I let the tower know that I'm ready.

So far, in the dozens of training flights - I've never been given a
take-off clearance right away - although most delays are brief.



Thanks!
John Clonts
Temple, Texas
N7NZ



--
Mark Hansen, PP-ASEL, Instrument Airplane
Sacramento, CA