Matt you are just talking out of your ass now. You jumped into a thread you
obviously hadn't read. Just so you know here was the original message I
responded to.


Montblack wrote:

The company has an obligation to provide benefits and has to fund
the plan to provide for those benefits.

Agreed - however on the back end, not the front end based on outmoded
projections.

Why does the company have an *obligation* to provide benefits?

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John T


My response was based on what looked like John T's belief that there was no
obligation to provide benefits promised.

Where you came up with your version of the thread I have not a clue but as
far as I'm concerned it ends now.




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And taking a walk is all good and fine if you find out they screwed you
over after a week. But after 20 years just going to work for the
competition isn't going to help you much.

If it takes you 20 years to figure that out, then you're pretty much
helpless.


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Matt, Are you just being an asshole for the fun of it. The post that I
posted my original reply to was one that asked the question of why the
carrier had an obligation to pay the pension.

Contractual obligation.

I compared it to the $10 $9 example.

An entirely different context. Under the scenario you painted in this
instance, the proper move was to complain, then quit if there was no
satisfaction.

Now let me ask you something: Are you being childish for a reason? Did you
get burned by being naive and now are unwilling to face up like an adult?

So far, the points I've seen from so many are more what I'd expect from
adolesants. If that means I'm an asshole, the maybe I am, but there are
some real spoiled brats running loose.


If I work somewhere for 20 years and during that entire time they promise
me a pension after 20 years yes I expect them to pay it.

Get a book on contract law, and lookup "impossibility of performance".

If you'd rather a candyass whose shoulder you can cry on after messing up
your worklife/career for 20 years, then that's not me. I treat people in
their 40's like adults, not kids, and I expect that by the time Daddy
kicks them out of the nest they can handle their lives and careers.

Hey, it's a shame your employer "died". but when you started with them YOU
handed them the Vaseline jar.

Just make damn sure your own kids don't make the same mistakes. Better
yet, get them a copy of Kiyosaki's "Rich Dad, Poor Dad" and make them read
it. It's got some ephemeral tales, but the gist is dead on.

Sorry if that comes off like an "asshole", but I've already raised three
kids that were on their way to financial independence since their teens
and I'm not up for raising any more kids, especially ones that are damn
near my own age.




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Matt

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Matthew W. Barrow
Site-Fill Homes, LLC.
Montrose, CO