At 19:54 28 September 2005, 5z wrote:

Ray Hart wrote:
Having taught your pupils how to get away with this
kind of madness in
what must be a very low performance, incredibly stable/forgiving
two
seater on a huge airfield, do you then brief them
to...

Ray, the whole point here is to show the person that
stuff like this
can be done safely in any type glider. Marty trains
in ASK-21 and I
currently only have access to L-23. But I personally
fly a number of
high performance ships, currently ans ASH-26E and would
have no
problem
trying any of these manouvers in that ship.

What I'm trying to say is that a one spoiler landing
is, to me, a total
non event. But to some is has turned into a fatality.
Why is that?

-Tom

But is that true? One question I mooted had to do
with the effects of
asymetry on a range odd types, especially older, larger
span gliders;
Kestrel19, Jaunus etc. Loss of rudder on a Kestrel
has proved fatal on a
number of occasions, loss of an aileron likewise in
Nimbus 2s, full rudder
deflection on a Janus has to be experienced (but only
at a safe height -
not on final approach). One inevitable problem is
that pilots who die can
not be interviewed to find out what happened, although
they probably
wouldn't know anyway.. I'm still unsure that 'training'
for these events
would prevent more accidents, although the amount of
training prangs
would undoubtedly increase. According to your statistics,
what
proportion of glider accidents have an instructor on
board? If you don't
know, then a little research might be illuminating.

Ray