On 1 Oct 2005 18:13:06 -0700, "rps" wrote:

I'm still confused. Assuming the following facts, how would you fly
the ILS RWY 28R at KSFO
(http://www.naco.faa.gov/d-tpp/0510/00375I28R.PDF), which has a holding
pattern depicted in lieu of PT, and no indication that radar is
required?

Assumptions:
1) Upon departure, you were cleared to SFO, as filed;
2) your filed route takes you through the MENLO IAF (I don't know if
there's an airway through MENLO, but assume you got there for the sake
of argument);
3) you lost radio contact before your arrival at MENLO; and
4) you arrive at MENLO at 4000 feet and at your filed ETA.

Here's how I'd fly the procedure - will I be in violation of any FARs,
even given the interpretation of the AIM change that is proposed here?
1) Cross MENLO at 4000, descend to 3200 and continue to CEPIN;
2) As I approach CEPIN and as the localizer comes alive and starts
moving toward center, begin turning left to intercept localizer - note
that I will initially have almost a 50 degree intercept - and begin
descent to 1800 feet; and
3) at AXMUL, intercept glideslope and continue descent.

Why would I turn right at CEPIN or even at MENLO to spend some time in
the hold at DUMBA, except perhaps if I arrived prior to my filed ETA?

I'm not as familiar with NACO charts as with Jepp charts (and I don't have
a Jepp chart for that approach) but I would not even consider turning right
at CEPIN or MENLO to go to DUMBA. It seems to me that the procedure track
from the MENLO IAF does not proceed via DUMBA. This seems apparent from
the charting; but also note that the MEA for the route from MENLO to CEPIN
is lower than the MEA in the hold at DUMBA.

So far as doing a hold if you arrived ahead of your ETA, in accord with the
regulations regarding radio failure, I believe you should be holding at
MENLO. Although, the situation may well be considered an emergency,
depending on what you are flying, and I might choose to skip this provision
of the regulations for safety reasons.


Ron (EPM) (N5843Q, Mooney M20E) (CP, ASEL, ASES, IA)