I tried that one time out of North Las Vegas, the tower told me that I have a
choise of doing the SID or waiting untill Las Vegas International stoped the
incomming and out going flights for me. I left VFR and picked up my clearence in
the air.

Now I usually pick up my clearence in the air unless I need it to get in the air.



Hankal wrote:

What are the *real world* implications of flying into busy airspace IFR in a
piston single/light twin..this is all assuming that you do NOT have a way of
navigating

When I file my IFR flight plan I put into remarks NO STARS NO SIP
Hank