"TaxSrv" wrote in message
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Many did, but it turned up delay again until it was 1,300 broken
and clear on the viz. We tried it for a while, but told the ground
bosses this is not good. We're up there at pattern altitude flying
the hastily modified route, to avoid somebody arriving IFR to pop
out the bottom at our field or at a nearby field's ILS. Those few
of us who can with a BOTH button, monitoring unicom and also the
satellite field Approach freq for IFR arrivals. We're not enjoying
this.

Wait, how was it possible to even make the attempt with a 1300' ceiling?
You've said you're based at LNN, right? That's Class E from 700' AGL upward,
and the pattern altitude there is 974' AGL, so with a 1300' ceiling, you'd
have been much closer than 500' to the clouds, which is illegal and
dangerous when flying VFR in controlled airspace.

Many disappointed kids again, but you can't explain why in
simple terms to parents, w/o talking scary-sounding safety issues.

I'm sorry, but withholding "scary-sounding" safety facts from the parents
just isn't right. Passengers (or their parents, if the passengers are
children) should give their informed consent to fly, rather than being
tricked into doing something that's more dangerous than they would agree to
if they were allowed to know the scary truth.

--Gary