"John R Weiss" wrote in message
news:NIcQb.106147$sv6.507113@attbi_s52...

True. However, a fix over an airport CAN be determined.


It can't be determined by dead reckoning.



At MKE, that could be an intersection of 2 VOR radials -- BAE and HRK.


Please explain how you'd hold at MKE on the inbound course from SUDDS to MKE
using radials from BAE and HRK.



There are also several NDBs in the area.


Please explain how you'd hold at MKE on the inbound course from SUDDS to MKE
using NDBs in the area.



Cross-checks can be made in some situations via LOC and Marker Beacons.


Please explain how you'd hold at MKE on the inbound course from SUDDS to MKE
using LOC and Marker Beacons.