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Old November 8th 05, 05:17 AM
Peter Duniho
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Default "Movement Area" (airplanes and trucks)

"Andrew Gideon" wrote in message
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Looking at the diagram for RNT, taxiways A and B appear similar in
structure
to H at CDW. Are they marked at RNT in such a way as to make a
distinction
between "the ramp" and "the taxiway"?


Oddly enough, never actually have I been anywhere off the runway at Renton.
So I don't know what the on-ground signage is. However, since the
"everything but runway as non-movement area" is relatively new, it wouldn't
surprise me to find that the markings are more typical of what one might
find in controlled areas of the airport.

My point is that the regulation that was quoted, asserting that one cannot
operate an aircraft on a taxiway at a controlled airport without an ATC
clearance, is clearly not applicable to taxiways within a non-movement area.
Clearly, at least with respect to that regulation, those "taxiways" are not
defined as "taxiways" for the purpose of that regulation. Even if they are
otherwise exactly like a taxiway in every other respect (including being
called a "taxiway" by ATC).

In your case at KCDW, the important question is whether the boundary of the
non-movement area is clearly marked on the pavement. I don't know whether
it is or not; I suspect that because ATC treats it as a non-movement area,
that it is so marked, but it's possible that it's not.

If it's not, you have a fair grievance in this situation. If it is, then
you don't.

Pete