I've flown IFR out of a number of "remote" airports and something that
I've always found to work is to simply ask FSS. When you file your
flight plan, just ask FSS who you need to contact for your clearance.
If you have any doubt about how to contact that controlling agency,
ask. My experience is that FSS is always happy to help. My clearances
have been via FSS, Center, local Approach Control by phone, and local
Approach Control via a RCO (if it's an RCO, be sure to tell them where
you are and what frequency you're calling on. They might not need
that, but it removes any doubt). All of these work just great. The
nice thing about some of these remote locations is the clearance void
times are so generous that you have enough time to make another trip
to the john before engine start. I've never had FSS steer me wrong on
how to accomplish the IFR clearance. As far as obstacle clearance.
There is a standard climb rate that assures obstacle clearance (I
think it's 200 feet per mile). Check the regs. If a climb rate greater
than that, or certain headings or courses are required to assure
clearance, they'll be stipulated in the departure procedures (e.g.
"upon departure, fly outbound ARB course 240 until reaching 4000 feet
then proceed on course"). Just follow what they say and you're in the
clear. If you can't comply, stay on the ground unless or until you can
visually assure obstacle clearance.



"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in message hlink.net...
"endre" wrote in message
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I know this question has probably been answered thousand times before
on this forum. I am based at s50 in washington with no instrument
approach or departure procedure. It is class G to 1200 and then class
e plus some class b around.

How can I depart IFR from this airport?


I'd try calling Seattle approach on 119.2. You're only 8 miles from SEA,
you may be able to get them on the ground at S50. Give it a try next time
you're at S50.

Incidentally, it's Class G to 700 MSL over S50, not 1200



Do i need to depart VFR and
stay below 1200 and pick up my clearance or can I get a void time
clearance, be responsible for my own obstacle clearance and separation
and depart essentially at 0/0 (if i ever thought that was a good
idea?)


Controlled airspace begins at 700 AGL and the base of Class B airspace is
3000 MSL over S50. If it's VFR all you have to do is avoid Class B airspace
until getting a clearance. If it's below VFR minimums you have to have an
IFR clearance before you climb into Class E airspace at 700 AGL.