I used the "ask the instructor" trick and the guy gave me bad info. He
told me to get my clearance in the air, and I would have been better
off getting in on the ground. I agree, ask FSS. A lot of instructors
have never flown actual off their own airport. What he told me would
have worked if it was VFR, but it was IMC at 1000' AGL. You do not
want to be flying around under a low cloud deck trying to pick up a
clearance.

"Bob Gardner" wrote in message news:Nhx_b.390624$na.666639@attbi_s04...
Go into Auburn Flight Service and ask any instructor. Way back when, there
was a phone number we could use to get directly to the guys at Approach
Control, but that probably wouldn't work today. At an airport as close to
SeaTac as Auburn is, there are undoubtedly some tricks that don't show up in
the AIM.

Or call Dennis Wilson at 206-768-2881...he's a TRACON controller and knows
lots of tricks.

Bob Gardner


"endre" wrote in message
om...
I know this question has probably been answered thousand times before
on this forum. I am based at s50 in washington with no instrument
approach or departure procedure. It is class G to 1200 and then class
e plus some class b around.

How can I depart IFR from this airport? Do i need to depart VFR and
stay below 1200 and pick up my clearance or can I get a void time
clearance, be responsible for my own obstacle clearance and separation
and depart essentially at 0/0 (if i ever thought that was a good
idea?) The minimum vectoring altitude is 2000 feet. Just thinking
about those days where the ceiling is 800-1200 or a 400 feet fog layer
where it would be nice to get out.