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George, your heart is in the right place...but if you think that someone at 
ATC has a pad of ticket forms just ready to write you up, you are sadly 
mistaken. I was told by an officer of the controller's union that 
controllers are not interested in the certification status of an airplane or 
a pilot. 
 
A former Assistant Administrator for Regulations and Certification told me 
that it is the pilot who encounters icing conditions and makes no attempt to 
escape who would get a violation...but only if that failure resulted in an 
accident/incident or required special handling by ATC. No one at a Center 
operating position knows if a pilot climbs or descends through a cloud. 
 
Bob Gardner 
 
"George Patterson"  wrote in message 
news:vPXnf.12379$Jz6.1184@trnddc06... 
 John Doe wrote: 
 
 1) If the cloud layer is forecast to potentially have icing, can you 
 legally and would you climb through the layer to get up high for your 
 trip? how thick a layer, type of forecast, time spent in the layer, etc. 
 What would you be willing to risk transition through possible icing? 
 
 No. Legally, forecast ice is "known icing." 
 
 4) Let's say yoru trip starts off VFR but by the time you get to your 
 destination, a cloud layer has formed that has reported icing in it.  Can 
 or or would you be willing to transit this layer to land at this 
 destionation or would you turn around or divert to land someplace to stay 
 out of the clouds? 
 
 If I want to stay VFR, I won't be transiting any clouds. Being unwilling 
 to risk a violation if I file IFR and then fly through reported icing, I 
 would divert. 
 
 George Patterson 
      Coffee is only a way of stealing time that should by rights belong to 
      your slightly older self. 
 
 
 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
		 
			
 
			
			
			
				 
            
			
			
            
            
                
			
			
		 
		
	
	
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