Dave Butler wrote:
Matthew S. Whiting wrote:

Dave Butler wrote:

Bob Gardner wrote:

"Maintain 2200 until established, cleared for the ILS." Do you report
leaving 2200 when the glideslope comes down?




Nope, I don't. The glideslope coming down is not a "newly assigned
altitude".



No, but you are leaving a previously assigned altitude which is your
original point as I recall. And the point is that once cleared for
the approach, you are also cleared to enter and leave all altitudes
from that point until you are on the runway.


My "original point" is that we should do what the AIM says with regard
to reporting leaving assigned altitudes for a newly assigned altitude.
The AIM says (paraphrasing) that you should report when leaving an
assigned altitude *for a newly assigned altitude*.

Well, first, the AIM is advisory, not regulatory. However, I also agree
that it is good practice to adhere to the AIM suggestions. I don't
believe that the AIM section you are paraphrasing applies here as I
believe that a visual approach essentially has given you a new altitude
clearance, actually altitude range from where you are at the time of
accepting the clearance down to the airport elevation and thus you are
no longer leaving an assigned altitude.


I viewed a clearance for a visual approach as a newly assigned altitude.
As a result of this discussion, I no longer hold that view. I never
viewed a falling glideslope needle as a newly assigned altitude.

Yes, the visual approach is a newly assigned altitude range which goes
clean down to the runway.


Matt