I think the issue is whether the crime is in progress or you
are out doing S&D on known, supposed or possible criminals.

If you're out doing a vigilantly sweep of the streets and
see a crime in progress, say, two men and two women using
clubs, knives and guns, which people are the attackers and
which are the victims? What if they are each vigilantes who
assumed the other was a criminal and they are each getting
ready to feed the alligators?

If I am the target of an attack by a criminal, my actions
are clear and I know who started the attack. But unless I
see the entire crime, from beginning to the time I arrive on
the scene, how do I tell whether the people that appear to
be the attackers isn't the victim who has "turned the
tables" and is still defending their life? It should known
that even an attacker has the legal right to withdraw and
cease and at that point if you continue to attack them, you
may legally become the "attacker" and face criminal charges.
You have a right to make a citizens arrest and use such
force as is needed to do so safely, but you cannot use
deadly force unless necessary to protect yourself or
another. Best action, defend your self and others, and let
the criminal flee if they will do so. Give the cops a good
description and let the police do their job.

Laws vary from State to State and states amend the laws too.
But if you don't know the actual law in the area where you
live or travel, you are taking a big chance with your rights
and your life.


--
The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.
some support
http://www.usdoj.gov/olc/secondamendment2.htm
See http://www.fija.org/ more about your rights and duties.


"Grumman-581" wrote
in message ...
| "Jim Macklin" wrote in message
news:%lCtf.38572$QW2.24002@dukeread08...
| Texas law is getting to be pretty reasonable, GWB signed
the
| first concealed carry law for the state and it has been
| improved over the years.
|
| Yeah, we're slowly throwing off the yoke of Yankee
oppression left over from
| the aftermath of the War of Northern Aggression...
|
| In the past, a trip out of your home county did allow
| being armed while traveling, but now you don't have
| to be on a long trip.
|
| Actually, the law was too ****in' vague and it allowed the
liberal ass
| prosecutors and cops to harass you... There was nothing
about counties in
| the law, it just said that you could use "travelling" as a
defense... You
| still could end up being arrested and having to hire a
lawyer... The new law
| doesn't make it that much better...
|
| A vigilante looks for criminals and acts as judge, jury
and
| executioner.
|
| So? If the criminal doesn't do a crime, they have nothing
to worry about...
|
| [Federal Gun Free School Zone is a free fire zone for
the
| insane and criminal, because the victims are expected to
be
| unarmed.]
|
| Totally unconstitutional... Same as anything else that
violates SHALL NOT BE
| INFRINGED...
|
| Never alter a crime scene, don't move any evidence,
don't
| drag the body inside, such actions make it appear that
you
| did something wrong or at least were not sure about what
| happened and are trying to make yourself look better.
|
| Awh, 'ell, Jim... Gators gotta eat too, ya' know?
|
|