Yes, but I said if you are holding and don't have the EFC
time and your comm fails, when do you leave the fix. ATC
issues a clearance to a fix as a limit, expecting to have
their problem resolved before you get there and to issue a
further clearance. The pilot may lose 2way comm before he
enters the hold and not know it, since a radio report is not
required when in radar contact, in any case, he might not
know he has lost comm until he is in the hold.

The issue is those 2way comm failures in conditions not
covered by 91.185.

The PIC is always told to clarify any clearance that is not
clear or fully understood... asking for an EFC time is just
that.


--
James H. Macklin
ATP,CFI,A&P

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"Steven P. McNicoll" wrote in
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| A hold, by definition is a delay.
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| But if you don't enter the hold you are not delayed.
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