On 01/11/06 11:03, Jose wrote:
But unless the controller clears you beyond that fix (which in this case,
he did not) and you're not following the Radio Failure procedures (which
in this case you are not) then you must hold.

If you are cleared to a fix and "expect no delay", how does that differ
from having an EFC time that exactly matches your arrival at the fix?

Jose

It is my understanding that these apply only when there is a two-way radio
failure. If the radio is still working, these are meaningless (other than,
perhaps, as an aid to planning).

I think a lot of the confusion in this thread may have to do with the difference
between what the FARs tell you to do, and what can be expected in the real world.

My interest has been in the rules, but that may not be what the OP was looking
for.

In the real world, you'll probably never get to that fix without getting another
clearance limit unless there is a radio failure (as Steven says, if I can be
allowed to paraphrase just a bit). However, I think the rules are there to help
us understand what to do when that doesn't work out (and to pass FAA knowledge
tests and oral exams ;-) )


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Mark Hansen, PP-ASEL, Instrument Airplane
Sacramento, CA