"Mark Hansen" wrote in message
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I suspect that we're tripping over "clearance limit". IF you got a
clearance that said hold at xxx VOR, expect flight planned route at 12:30
Zulu, you'd know what to do. If you arrived at xxx VOR after 12:30 Zulu,
you'd never enter the hold. No delay.


Even if your radio is still working? I was taught to do what you say
*only* when the radio is not working.


Were you ever specifically told what to do in that situation when the radio
is working?