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Old January 12th 06, 10:25 PM posted to rec.aviation.piloting
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Default Lancaster California: Another Fatal Cirrus Crashof



cpu wrote:




I did not try engine fail practice in Cirrus. However, every pilot
knows during initial climb out if engine fail, you have to lower the
noise IMMEDIATELY ON ANY SEL AIRCRAFT.


Again, baloney. The plane will stay at the trimmed airspeed until it
hits the ground. You may want to push the nose over to hit a certain
spot but it is not necessary to keep the plane in the air.


Countless such take off crash
cases not limit to Cirrus. You can go to AOPA's Air Safety Foundation
to read on the training material about how to do during take off engine
fail. I believe while that SR-20 turned crosswind, he did not reach
800 feet AGL.... you have only seconds to choice a landing spot even
if you lower the nose correctly.


From 800 feet??? I thought you were talking close to the ground. When
I had my 182 I needed 450 feet to return to the runway I took off from,
landing opposite direction. From 800 feet I will make a pattern of it
and land the same way I took off.


I don't understand what do you mean
"a lot of time", basically, you don't have "a lot of time".


That of course is a relative term but from 800 feet you will have over a
minute before you hit the ground.


That is
also proved by the witness of the crash. (from engine quit to crash
only took a few seconds).


The only way to hit the ground within a few seconds from 800 feet is to
roll the plane over and aim it straight at the ground.



You probably did that 85 kt well-trimmed power loss in higher altitude
(in a practice area). I don't think you did this in 500 feet AGL,
didn't you? (otherwise you won't say you will have "plenty" of time).


The amount of time it takes to go from 800 AGL to 0 AGL is the same as
from 2000 AGL to 1200 AGL.