"Andrew Sarangan" wrote in message
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Yes, of course. I had inadvertantly assumed radar environment to mean
radar vectoring. However, I can't think of any time when ATC did not
vector me in a radar environment unless I specifically requested a
full approach.

Well, people are coming up with exceptions, although I understand what
you're saying. Here's another: you can be close enough on the far side of an
on-field VOR that you'll be let loose to do the full VOR approach. Last time
I did that at Paine field the tower controller remarked on how quickly I had
done the PT: it was a 90-270 but I had gone far enough out not to need a
slam-dunk.

-- David Brooks